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Updated: June 10, 2025
'The King and others, answered Joan, 'have heard the voices coming to me. Charles of Bourbon also, and two or three others. 'Did you often hear that voice? asked the priest. 'Not a day passes that I do not hear it, Joan replied. 'What do you ask of it? inquired Beaupère. 'I have never, answered Joan, 'asked for any recompense, except the salvation of my soul.
"I wore a man's dress, also a sword which Robert de Baudricourt gave me, but no other weapon." "Who was it that advised you to wear the dress of a man?" Joan was suspicious again. She would not answer. The question was repeated. She refused again. "Answer. It is a command!" "Passez outre," was all she said. So Beaupere gave up the matter for the present.
On being asked which of these saints was the first to appear to her, she said it was the last named. She had seen him, she said, as clearly as she saw Beaupère, and that he was not by himself, but in a company of angels. When he left her she felt miserable, and longed to have been taken with the flight of angels.
Beaupère caught immediately at the opportunity of her having spoken of the Pope to lay a pitfall in her path: Which Pope did she believe the authentic one he at Avignon or the one in Rome? 'Are there two? she asked. This was an awkward question to those bishops and doctors of the faith who had for so long a time encouraged the schism in the Church.
His evidence is full of the feeblest argument, and his memory appears to have been a very convenient one, as he repeatedly evades an answer by the plea of having forgotten all about the incident alluded to. Next follows that 'vénérable et circonspecte personne, Maître Jean Beaupère' a doctor of theology, and canon of Rouen, Paris, and Besançon.
Beaupere made various attempts to lead her into contradictions of herself; also to put her words and acts in disaccord with the Scriptures. But it was lost time. He did not succeed. He returned to her visions, the light which shone about them, her relations with the King, and so on. "Was there an angel above the King's head the first time you saw him?" "By the Blessed Mary!
Then she sighed and said, "Of a truth, you do burden me too much." The Bishop still insisted, still commanded, but he could not move her. At last he gave it up and turned her over for the day's inquest to an old hand at tricks and traps and deceptive plausibilities Beaupere, a doctor of theology.
Beaupère evaded the question, and asked her if it were true that she had received a letter from the Count of Armagnac asking her which of the two Popes he was bound to obey. A copy of this letter was produced, as well as the one sent by Joan of Arc in reply.
Beaupere then resumed his questions, but first asked her, perhaps with a momentary gleam of compassion and a sudden consciousness of the pallor and weariness of the young prisoner, how she did. She answered, one can imagine with what tone of indignant disdain: "You see how I am: I am as well as I can be."
'Did you expect the King to see you? then asked the priest. Her answer was that the voice had promised her that the King would soon see her after her arrival. 'And why, asked Beaupère, 'did he receive you? 'Those on my side, said Joan, 'knew well that I was sent by God; they have known and acknowledged that voice. 'Who? asked Beaupère.
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