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Shayler continues: "The places where he was born, labored and died are still extant, and have no value apart from such testimony." While this is amusing, we are going to deny ourselves the pleasure of laughing at it; we will do our best to give it a serious answer.

Shayler has forgotten that the Christian era was not introduced into Europe until the sixth century, and Dionysius, the monkish author of the era, did not compute time from the birth of Jesus, but from the day on which the Virgin Mary met an angel from heaven. This date prevailed in many countries until 1745.

If Jesus rose at all, he rose on a certain day, and the apostles must have known the date. Why then is there a different date every year? Rev. Shayler concludes: "Haven't time to go deeper now," and he intimates that to deny his 'facts' is either to be a fool or a "liar." We will not comment on this. We are interested in arguments, not in epithets.

Facts, not theories. The date of your own letter 1908 tells what? 1908 years after what? The looking forward of the world to Him." Rev. Shayler has an original way of proving the historicity of Jesus. Every time we date our letters, suggests the clergyman, we prove that Jesus lived.

Barton's efforts to save his creed remind us of the Japanese proverb: "It is no use mending the lid, if the pot be broken." The most remarkable clerical effort thus far, which The Mangasarian- Crapsey Debate has called forth, is that of the Rev. E. V. Shayler, rector of Grace Episcopal Church of Oak Park. "In answer to your query, which I received, I beg to give the following statement.

If the existence of such a country as Palestine proves that Jesus is real, the existence of Switzerland must prove that William Tell is historical; and the existence of an Athens must prove that Athene and Apollo really lived; and from the fact that there is an England, Rev. Shayler would prove that Robin Hood and his band really lived in 1160.

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