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Either Germany or England must win and the interests here on the Rhine are ready to fight until Germany wins." "Do you think Germany wants war with America?" I asked Thyssen. "Never!" was his emphatic response. "First, because we have enemies enough, and, secondly, because in peace times, our relations with America are always most friendly. We want them to continue so after the war."

Then there is Herr August Thyssen "King Thyssen" who owns coalmines, rolling mills, harbours, and docks throughout Germany, iron-ore mines in France, warehouses in Russia, and entrepôts in nearly every country from Brazil and Argentina to India. He has declared that German interests in Asia Minor must be safeguarded at all costs.

The military class were exalted and all else degraded. Thus was laid the foundation for the atrocities which have marked their conduct of the war. The vastness of the conquest planned has recently been revealed by August Thyssen, one of the greatest steel men of the empire.

In Dusseldorf at the Industrie Klub I dined with the steel magnates of Germany and at Homburg-on-the-Rhine I saw August Thyssen, one of the richest men in Germany and the man who owns one-tenth of Germany's coal and iron fields. The most impressive thing about this journey was what these men said about the necessity for unlimited warfare. Every man I met was opposed to the Chancellor.

But what of Ballin, Heineken, von Gwinner, Gutmann, Thyssen, Rathenau, and other captains of industry and finance? Some of them have expressed opinions in interviews, but what do they really think? I am not going to indulge in any guesswork on this matter.