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Johannes Eck employs the word still in a rather friendly sense, as a generally current term: 'all scholars in Germany are Erasmians, he says. But Erasmus did not like the word. 'I find nothing in myself', he replies, 'why anyone should wish to be an Erasmicus, and, altogether, I hate those party names.
'That's Blass-Gesell, said the voice in the wain, as the trooper trotted on: adding, ''gainst us. 'Makes six, responded the driver. Within sight of the Eck, they descried another trooper coming toward them. This time the driver was first to speak. 'Tribute! Provender! Bread and wine for the high Baron Werner from his vassals over Tonnistein.
On this point Luther remarked to him that he knew well how to distinguish between the pipe and the piper, and was only sorry to see how accessible princes might be to the influence of foreign agitations. Leipzig altogether must have been a strange and uncomfortable atmosphere for Luther. On Monday, July 4, he entered the lists with Eck.
The next important step in the development of Luther's religious ideas was a debate on the general question of papal supremacy, held at Leipzig in 1519, between himself and an eminent Catholic apologist, Johann Eck.
Said the duke: "Be industrious and well behaved, and, if you make good progress, I will put you under the tuition of a great master." So Louis Spohr was installed as a Kammer-musicus, and his patron fulfilled his promise in 1802 by placing his protégé under the charge of Francis Eck, one of the finest violinists then living.
He felt that they compromised the interests of the Church universal, of which he was the protector. Therefore he despatched Hosius, Bishop of Cordova, in Spain, in whom he had great confidence, who was in fact his ecclesiastical adviser, to both Alexander and Arius, to bring about a reconciliation. As well reconcile Luther with Dr. Eck, or Pascal with the Jesuits! The divisions widened.
Such venom you have imbibed from that man Emser's heretical and blasphemous output, which I will give the answer it deserves when Sir Knight Eck comes along with his flourish. You cannot carry it off in that way, my dear Romanists. I cannot prevent it by force, but you shall not bring any Scripture in support of it. Praise God, I am not quite ready to bite the dust.
Eck had probably the advantage over his antagonist, so far as dialectics were concerned, being a more able disputant; but Luther set at defiance mere scholastic logic, and appealed to an authority which dialectics could not reach.
'That's Blass-Gesell, said the voice in the wain, as the trooper trotted on: adding, ''gainst us. 'Makes six, responded the driver. Within sight of the Eck, they descried another trooper coming toward them. This time the driver was first to speak. 'Tribute! Provender! Bread and wine for the high Baron Werner from his vassals over Tonnistein.
They assert that the mediæval Church and the papacy developed slowly, and that the apostles knew nothing of masses, indulgences, purgatory, and the headship of the Bishop of Rome. Eck promptly pointed out that Luther's views resembled those of Wycliffe and Huss, which had been condemned by the Council of Constance.
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